Comments on: The Balibo Five http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/ Guru = Pahlawan Tanpa Tanda Jasa Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:48:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: xvart http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1342 Thu, 10 May 2007 17:16:27 +0000 http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1342 I don't see the relation here between east timor and west papua, east timor is a construct and ethnically indonesian west papua is not. So why is my atheistic support for their self determination somehow a christian based program. Also why should I support a land grab by a bunch of fascists, I have no interest in civillising or westernising west papua, if they want to wear penis gourds more power to them. All I'd want to push on them is practical heath program able to be supported and maintained by their chosen level of infrastructure. Also if you can't disagree with someone their not your friend so stop thinking they are. I don’t see the relation here between east timor and west papua, east timor is a construct and ethnically indonesian west papua is not. So why is my atheistic support for their self determination somehow a christian based program. Also why should I support a land grab by a bunch of fascists, I have no interest in civillising or westernising west papua, if they want to wear penis gourds more power to them. All I’d want to push on them is practical heath program able to be supported and maintained by their chosen level of infrastructure. Also if you can’t disagree with someone their not your friend so stop thinking they are.

]]> by: Club Troppo » Missing Link - Budget Edition http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1334 Thu, 10 May 2007 10:04:00 +0000 http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1334 [...] Ken Lovell shares his thoughts on the ‘Balibo Five’ (the Aussie journalists killed in East Timor). [...] […] Ken Lovell shares his thoughts on the ‘Balibo Five’ (the Aussie journalists killed in East Timor). […]

]]> by: Damian Doyle http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1329 Thu, 10 May 2007 01:23:22 +0000 http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1329 This is an interesting point of view, Ken. I reckon Rodd McGibbon would probably agree with you on this - he reckons there's a bit of an anti-Jakarta lobby in Australia that has a disproportionate voice and tends to misrepresent may of the issues in places like Papua. I'm not so sure. Lobbyists have to latch onto something and run with it, otherwise they simply can't play the media game. No one is interested in supporting Muslims struggling for independence in Thailand, for instance. But I think that the Christian thing may be overstated. Aceh is not Christian, and now has its own version of shariah law (much to the annoyance of many aid workers who have to drink their much-needed grog on the sly). Many Aussies supported Aceh's struggle and with good reason. This is an interesting point of view, Ken. I reckon Rodd McGibbon would probably agree with you on this - he reckons there’s a bit of an anti-Jakarta lobby in Australia that has a disproportionate voice and tends to misrepresent may of the issues in places like Papua.

I’m not so sure. Lobbyists have to latch onto something and run with it, otherwise they simply can’t play the media game. No one is interested in supporting Muslims struggling for independence in Thailand, for instance.

But I think that the Christian thing may be overstated. Aceh is not Christian, and now has its own version of shariah law (much to the annoyance of many aid workers who have to drink their much-needed grog on the sly). Many Aussies supported Aceh’s struggle and with good reason.

]]> by: Invig http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1327 Wed, 09 May 2007 23:44:41 +0000 http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1327 Geez Ken, thats a pretty harsh way of seeing the world - and makes me wonder who <i>you</i> are protecting from Labor back in the day. Geez Ken, thats a pretty harsh way of seeing the world - and makes me wonder who you are protecting from Labor back in the day.

]]> by: Jan http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1325 Wed, 09 May 2007 22:47:40 +0000 http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/05/09/the-balibo-five/#comment-1325 I've always found Ramos-Horta creepily unctuous. His self-promotion in the media pre independence in East Timor oozed self-interest. Nothing tiny about it. I’ve always found Ramos-Horta creepily unctuous. His self-promotion in the media pre independence in East Timor oozed self-interest. Nothing tiny about it.

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